Following are several links to Wyndham-related lawsuits on behalf of owners. Many of these are against Wyndham’s other brands or subsidiaries (Trendwest, WorldMark, RCI, etc.):
Here is a link to the RCI Class Action Settlement Agreement, dated Nov 21, 2008, which finds Wyndham subsidiary company, RCI, to have used timeshares deposited with them for exchange, and rented them to the public without knowledge or approval of owners. Said deposits were rented to the public for Wyndham’s own corporate benefit and once removed from inventory, were no longer available for other owners to receive in exchange.
Here is a link to a Dec 10, 2008 finding against Wyndham to allow Worldmark (another Wyndham membership program, similar to FairShare) owners’ access to the email addresses so proxies may be sent to owners to try and overthrow their Wyndham-controlled Board of Directors. It is item 8 in the list. Also notice the part where the Board of Directors tried to amend their bylaws to disallow this, even while the complaint and petition were pending!
Here is a link to the pending class action suit against Wyndham for monopolizing the Board of Directors of WorldMark and devaluing their ownership. This is a different membership program than FairShare, but the premises of the class action are very similar.
Actually, the website http://whatswrongwithwyndham.com has much more information about the Worldmark class action suit and should prove helpful in understanding how Wyndham is trying to use their corporate relationships to manipulate the various organizations they are entrusted to manage.
Here's another recent example. In December, 2008, the Property Owner's Association at Daytona Beach Ocean Walk, which was managed by Wyndham, filed the largest civil suit in Florida’s history (against Wyndham), again alleging misuse of the resources the were supposed to manage, misuse of funds, and unwillingness to relinquish assets even after being fired as the management company.
Additionally, there are several State Attorney General’s who have taken punitive action on behalf of their constituents against the timeshare industry, mostly for unfair sales and marketing practices. Here are four examples (one involving Wyndham subsidiary, Worldmark):
California Attorney General Bill Lockyer sues Trendwest (a former Cendant subsidiary).
Missouri Attorney General Jay Nixon sues Branson timeshare developer. Notice paragraph four, which alleges that specified promised benefits were not delivered. This is one of the biggest concerns owners have with what Wyndham is doing to their owners.
Here’s another lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Jay Nixon last year – this time against Festiva Resorts.
Pennsylvania Attorney General Tom Corbett announced lawsuits against multiple Florida timeshare companies for deceptive timeshare practices. Everything Wyndham is currently doing to our ownership would certainly fall under the title of “deceptive” (or worse).
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I recently have been taken advantage of by wyndham resorts and am getting no help from their offices . I basically spent 20,000. for 2 nights . as they only gave me 126,000 points ..not what was promised me . When I got home the mass amount of paperwork had all the legal stuff and how to pay but the papers of my points were no where to be found
ReplyDeleteSharon, what happened to your timeshare now? We were victimized by this company.
DeleteSharon, if everyone stop paying the vultures, then they would clean up their act. Their bottom line is charging you outrageous imterest rates and a long term contract. 15% interest for 15 years is robbery, mame withheld because of current litigation with Wyndham Resorts.
DeleteWe were just victimized by Wyndham to the tune of $25000, told a bunch of flat out lies and then told too bad about our luck!
DeleteWe have been battling Wyndham with certified letters, phone calls, faxes and all we get is a deaf ear and no response. I have sent cease and desist letters and still get at least 2 recorded messages every day! They used unfair sales practices, were deceptive and now I have a loan for 19.99% and am in debt over $96,000. I am battling breast cancer, huge stress, and husband has recently been diagnosed with cancer, too. We can't afford the "emperors' new clothes" HELP ME PLEASE
DeleteLets all sue all together greatness in numbers.
DeleteMy family has 115000 tied up with them. spent over the last 15 yrs all on the beliefs that this was something that would appreciate in value. There salesmen told us that it was will able property in which we would grow equity. Today they told us they were worthless. never had any value so we are in the process of seeking legal action
DeleteMy family has 115000 tied up with them. spent over the last 15 yrs all on the beliefs that this was something that would appreciate in value. There salesmen told us that it was will able property in which we would grow equity. Today they told us they were worthless. never had any value so we are in the process of seeking legal action
DeleteI'm a wyndham owner and former timeshare salesperson in south Florida.I can confirm that Wyndham is a criminal organization that teaches it's employees to deliberately confuse and misleadv you into buying at these presentations.
DeleteIf you really don"t want timeshare DO NOT go to the presentation and DO NOT just go and waste hours of your vacation for the stupid gift.Here"s 2 ways to own timeshare which in its simplest form is a great product and money saver VS hundreds of dollars per night for a tiny hotel room.
1) Go on EBAY,Craigs List,Etc and buy the timeshare resale for pennies on the dollar direct from the owner.You can find 300,000 to 400,000 point packages for hundreds of dollars instead of the tens of thousands of dollars that Wyndham rips you off for. Just be sure to call Wyndham and make sure to get an Estoppell letter showing that all money owed,maintenance etc is up to date,and the deed is clear before you buy.Don"t listen to their bullshit that you won"t qualify for VIP benefits,as you usually won't need them anyway.
Or buy 2 deeded RCI weeks the same way,from the owner .Preferrably 3br red weeks as these are most valuable.
Then use Wyndham"s PIC Program to turn these weeks into Wyndham points on a yearly optional basis.You need to purchase some Wyndham points to do this but for a purchase of about $12-15K or about 120,000 points you can trade in your 2 -RCI 3br red weeks for 254,000 points each which will give you over 600,000 points and Gold VIP each year.Congratulations !You just beat these assholes and will never need another point! You should break even in about 5 years in which you would have spent the same money anyway.
Good Luck
I am a timesrhare owner with Wyndham at la Belle Maison with 413,000 points annually. I want to sell. I own nothing with Wyndham only a local bank. Suggestions?
DeleteWe bought shares through ebay and the transactions went smoothly. We have loads of points and take vacations when needed. We are constantly told that we don't qualify for VP status, which is fine. However, were received a deceptive letter saying that we were part of a lawsuit that had been settled, as part of that settlement, and to avoid any repercussion from the lawsuit, they want us to turn over our resell deed to them. So basically, for resell points, they are scamming people to just automatically turn over their points for no reason but to their benefit!
DeleteI would rather go through another divorce than deal with the hell that I have been through with my time share. I have tried for years to accept that I am paying $1000 in maintenance dues for something I don't even use. I have tried to get out to find that it will cost thousands. I have long since past the point of thinking I will get anything out of this. I was hopeful that I could change my attitude and force my family to use the damn thing. I just got my daughter's hopes up that she could spend a weekend (nobody has a whole week) in park city at a two bedroom exchange. Then I discovered the exchange fee was $300. What the hell is the point? She could just book it herself for that. I am so fed up. So angry. So sick and tired. I want out so bad I am screaming at the black binder I got from Mystic Dunes, who by the way is on the "do not accept" list for buy backs in another vacation club that we were hopeful would take the waste of life off our hands. So done. Please God, please someone. I did not expect to be in this kind of prison by signing those papers 14 years ago. Like I said, my marriage was much easier to get out of and that hell was only 10 years long.
DeleteWe got our timeshare last year... It was a nightmare from the get go... Call me to see if we can get a class act lawsuit again them.
DeleteGabriela
We purchased in 01/2015 never got our free trip that cost $50.00 never used their services but still have two payments a month, one for the loan the other for the maintenance fees. I ask why we have to pay maintenance fees for something we will never use....in the contract and they will ruin our credit if we default....We tried to cancel after purchasing many phone calls,emails, etc we were told we had a 10 day waiting period...after saw that we only had 7 days to cancel....Feeling stupid for falling for such a scam...Even when the loan is paid off the maintenance fees will continue...
DeleteOh my gosh, Price Family. I feel your pain. Seriously, what else in our life aside from committing murder is a life sentence?! I've been stuck in this hell hole for nearly 30 years. I have tried, selling, renting even giving it away. I have tried deeding it back to the company for nothing (Vista Mirage in PS), but they don't have a program for that. It does feel like a prison. I got stuck with mine in a divorce when I was in my early 20's. I was living paycheck to paycheck but still managed to pay it off. I don't care if I get a single penny for it - I just want it GONE, GONE, GONE! My level of hatred for these folks is like acid running through me. Where are all our legislators? Obviously, with 1000's upon 1000's of people falling victim to these roaches, some kind of reform is needed.
DeleteIf you sell it back to them you get 20% . In the sales they say you can sell it back through pathway but not telling you only 20% of the value . They don't give you a chance for you to have a lawyer look the papers over .it a shame they do stuff like this without a conscience. Every time we go they want us to buy more .
DeleteI will join anyone here in a class action lawsuit. I was also mislead to belief the value of the time share will increase with time. I called whyndham today and their new ovation program offers me nothing but the real kicker is they keep my timeshare to sucker someone else for thousands .
DeleteWe would join because the new rules in Wyndham go against everything the salesman told us to get to Presidential Reserve ( $$$) We were told to cancel/rebook/ upgrade at 60 days out to get our reservations at 1/2 the points. Now, we are told that was a "glitch" in the system.We can no longer do that and it was marketed to us that we could. We would have never upgraded if we'd known their bait and switch tactics!!!
DeleteI am researching how to sue them as well; we were taken advantage of big time and now face possible taxes due - also the legal advice we bought is no help in the tax department; we were told to ignore wyndham - that worked to get out of the actual Deed....however I could have done that for free....we will def join a class action. please let me know amhaudi87@gmail.com
DeleteCount me in. Wyndham has abandoned "owners" in favor of shareholders (themselves) by finding ways to increase profits hence share price and one of the ways they do this is to grab cancelled reservations and ship them off to online rental companies (Booking.com for example which has an exclusive relationship with Wyndham. I tried to list one of my units on Booking and was told they could not do it because of their agreement with Wyndham). Not only are we denied the "re-book/discount" value of what was sold to us but we are denied access to inventory that could otherwise be available to us for new reservations. Sue, yes indeed. Stand out front of their resorts that sell their product and picket, yes to that as well.
DeleteWe want to join a class action lawsuit against Wyndham. They are defrauding us by taking away the "rebook/discount" cutting our point value and vacation time in half. Also we travel with our 3 daughters and their families. It seems we can no longer book multiple units. We have over 1,000,000 points, and they are becoming useless to us!
DeleteI would like to join a class action lawsuit also against Wyndham. Since March, they have talked us three time into purchasing more points saying we were in the wrong program. We are now in debt for $96,000 plus $600 maintenance fees monthly. My husband is 70 and retired and I am 69 and was looking forward to retiring at 70. Those dreams are gone. I had to remortgage our home and max out all of our credit cards. My husband and I are both ashamed of how we could have been talked into all this but the pressure is so great. I feel like we have sucker written on our foreheads.
DeleteMy husband and I were just told to file bankruptcy by a Wyndham employee, that do not have programs to help their timeshare owners with reducing their payments. We are currently paying $1,500.00 a month which is more than our house payment. I can NOT believe what that employee told me to do…bankruptcy!!! Is there still talk about a class action law suit? Count us in. The way they trick, lie, deceive, bad cop - good cop tactics is wrong on every level. My husband and I thought we were doing a good thing buying into a timeshare…were really looking forward to taking advantage of it once we retired, but not anymore. Please let me know if anyone has or is ready to take action against these monsters.
DeleteWe have points with why dam also they are renting our units online and putting the money in their own pockets. They where caught doing this with rci and had to pay
ReplyDeleteMy parents have RCI since 1976 and has never received a penny and Im sure they are using their unit. How do I find out?
DeleteI've been a so called owner of a Wyndham time share for about fifteen years.i've only used it four times and I've been paying for that mistake ever since, when you have sales people that will do any thing to make a dollar it doesn't make your company look so good I would and have told people not to fall into the same trap that I fell into, i've gone so far as to try to give it back.but why would this company take it back when they can basically steal from me month by month and year by year
ReplyDeleteWe have a crumby 84,500 points in the winter in Nashville. We bought them because we were told that we could swap them with a fee for a vacation anywhere in the US. We wanted to go to Southwest Florida, but have never been able to use those points in Southwest Florida. I am an attorney, and I am considering suing then Fairfield, now Wyndham. We have been switched from weeks to points, even though I still have a deed of trust. I'm afraid that after I do the discovery I'll find that everything has been pilfered. I will cost me a lot of time, but I'm going to do it. If this NO timeshare fella has a case against Fairfield/Wyndham, or against Nashville, I will gladly pay his fee and then go after them.
DeleteWe should all go sign a new contract after their lengthy sales pitch and file suit using video recording of the deceptive practices then when everyone from all the different resorts shows the same practices on video they won't be able to deny using these practices in their training.
Deletevideo speaks volumes. they could not deny it if everyone went and video taped these high pressure sales pitches at different resorts. would prove they train their people to use them.
DeleteCan someone please tell me how to get the deed of trust and certificate of title for the timeshares that have already been paid for? I'm thinking about getting an attorney to help me cancel my memberships. But I don't think I've ever got those two documents. Thanks!
DeleteYou need to read your legal documents to be sure there IS a deed of trust. Many timeshare 'owners' do not OWN anything. They are MEMBERS of a vacation club, so read your docs!
DeleteI am personally not a timeshare owner although, I did work at one of the call centers (or should I call them little crammed cubical back offices) that books reservations for these crooks. They call current owners,owners who haven't owned in over 20-30 years, families of deceased owners, or people who don't even own one and never had anything to do with one. They dont know who they are calling for specifically since it's an auto dial out thats why they always say, "may i speak with Mr. or mrs." When I was first hired on the job the manager made it seem like we were setting up reservations for actual updates for specific timeshares and the owners knew they needed to attend but no its just more sale pitches to screw more owners over. So not only some timeshares as a whole is a scam so are the jobs. I never knew what a timeshare was until I worked here and the people I spoke to about it before taking the job hyped it up so I didn't think anything bad was going to come from it. As I grew with the company the more I realized that this was heartless and basically harassment. If you EVER get a call from someone reserving a dinner spot for you at a timeshare meeting DO NOT GO! And if you don't want them to continously call you threaten to call the FCC, BBB, or threaten to take legal action. The callers BY LAW MUST put you on the national and universal Do not call list if you do that because they know what they are doing is harassment but if you're blinded by it and don't know what you can do they'll continue. I no longer work there but be aware this entire industry is it's own kind of hell
DeleteWhat can you do if you were lied to at the time you bought the timeshare? We were told it would be paid for in 5 years then after that time were told it was only half paid for.
ReplyDeleteWyndham finally quit bothering me but took back their property with over $55 thousand in equity and left me with a bad credit report. I've reconciled myself to not getting any money back but wish I could force them to get rid of the bad credit rating. Any suggestions?
ReplyDeletehow bad was the credit damage ratingwise?
DeleteI got swindled for 22K when i was told it was $7900. I havent been out anything yet thinking about joining Finn lawgroup suit vs Wyndham
is there already a class-action suit against wyndham?
DeleteWe purchased what we thought were UDI points. We were told upfront they were converted from a fixed week but they were now fixed week points We were assessed a higher than normal assessment because Wyndham UDI points were exempt but fixed converted to UDI were not so we bore the brunt of the burden. Requests for paperwork have been met with stall tactics.
ReplyDeleteThis is just a bad company. Everyone at Wyndham tells you it is someone else's fault but never do they own up to their actions.
Is there a class action lawsuit that I can take part in currently? I'm so fed up with the way Wyndham treats their fairshare plus owners. I can't reserve at the very resort that I own with owning a prime holiday week. Meanwhile, they rent out to convention visitors, which is then ultimately subsidized by owners like me.
ReplyDeleteI would also like to join any class action against Wyndham. Our very first use of their properties was far from the luxury property we had been shown before purchasing. It was a very tiny efficiency property. We were highly disappointed! I have tried to sell our "property" but was told that it is totally worthless! We have not received a deed for this "worthless" property yet we are still paying fees at very high interest rates. Please keep me in mind if a class action is brought against them. Help a fixed income retired couple out of trouble with this monster company!!!!
DeleteMY PARENTS HAD TWO DEEDS WITH WYDAHAM ONE AT BONNET CREEK AND AT STAR ISLAND-THEY HAVE TRIED TO SELL FOR YEARS WITH OUT SUCCESS-THERE DEEDS IN MY OPINION HAVE NOW BEEN STOLEN THE TOTAL COST OF THEIR TIME SHARES WERE OVER 100K AND WHEN THEY LOST THEM THEY HAD OVER 668K POINTS IN RCI AND WERE TOLD THEY COULD STILL USE THEM-BUT AFTER THE DEEDS WERE TRANSFERRED THEY WERE TOLD THEY COULDNT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT WYNDHAM OWNERS ANY LONGER. THEY PAID THOUSANDS JUST TO GET OUT OF THE DEEDS AND NEVER RECEIVED ONE PENNY IN RETURN. MY PARENTS ARE ELDERELY AND AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY WERE SCAMMED
ReplyDeleteI'm out, I'm free thank you Jim, thank you so much. Wyndham sales people will have to answer someday for what they do. If you want out Jim will help you.
ReplyDeleteWho's Jim and how do I get ahold of him?
DeleteHow did Jim help you and what company?
DeleteHow do we get in touch with Jim. We need help now
Deletehow can I contact Jim?
DeleteYou can reach me at timesharetricks@gmail.com
DeleteI am just curious - how was Jim able to help you? how long did it take?
DeleteThanks -
Let me know the details of how Jim was able to help you be FREE of this monster, who he is, and how I can get in touch with him. Will this be expensive. My husband and I are elderly -- they seem to target elderly people -- and we are facing financial stress if not financial disaster from this! Help us please!!
DeleteI have been a Worldmark owner since 1999. I did use and enjoy the timeshares. In July 2012 I spent a week at the Indio, CA site. After being harassed to conduct a "survey" for a few minutes I met with a salesman. I am an older single woman and I explained to him that I was unemployed and could not afford nor need any more shares. I told him that I intended to pay off the balance of my contract with savings to save the interest and that was all I could afford. He became very aggressive and brought his manager to sit with us. They both told me that if I would just use the money to upgrade I would be eligible to exchange my share for some high end vacation spots which I could rent out and pay the bill. After hours I signed. A year and $13,000 later, I am still unemployed and have no choice to break my contract, ruining my credit and totally losing all the credits I have paid for all these years. I am just sick.
ReplyDeleteI am curious if there is a way to get a list of all current RCI timeshare owners. If anyone has this information or can help me obtain it I would appreciate an email at:
ReplyDeleteacesfull2k9@yahoo.com
Thanks!
Is there a way to get a list of all owners of RCI timeshares, be it points or weeks based? I would appreciate any help here in taking these vultures down a peg or two.
ReplyDeleteacesfull2k9@yahoo.com
If anyone has an helpful information, I would appreciate it!
Wyndham employees commit fraud, misrepresent the product, and basically are scam artists/con artists. With saying this, the entire company is based on fraud and their goal is to scam hard working honest people. I've been a Wyndham owner for approximately four years and had they not have changed their programs, I would be satisfied with "what I thought I had purchased". I am an owner of Club Wyndham Select which was to be so "prestigious" and now I find out that under the new program of Wyndham Access many of my "prestigious" benefits will be an automatic given to Wyndham Access members. I've been lied to, pushed to make another purchase, and then treated poorly once the sales representative/sales manager realizes that I know have a clear understanding on how this company works. Anyone in Club Wyndham Access interested in filing a class action lawsuit? Contact me @ powellbg2003@yahoo.com. It's time to take a stand!
ReplyDeleteyes I an interesting in filing a class action lawsuit.
DeleteI'm interested also. Where do I sign?
DeleteDid you ever file a lawsuit? I am interested for being scammed and they won't contact me back via email or phone. I even spoke to them in person and they just wanted me to by more points for 75000.00 dollars...SCAMMERS
DeleteYes I am interested in joining a class action lawsuit. I am 79 years old and have been scammed to the tune of $108,000.00 on a 15 year loan. How do I contact someone about this?
DeleteInterested in Class Action lawsuit as well.
DeleteI am interested as well. Please contact me with info. amp4rf@gmail.com
DeleteI am also inaterested in a class action lawsuit!!
Deleteme too!
DeleteVultures! Is there anything worse than that!
DeleteHave you had any luck? I recently heard the word ovation via a presentation. However, I tried finding a meaning in real estate and could not find it. I am suspicious that it might have a double meaning to Wyndhan. Of course, as usual, they tell you it only works if you have something Wyndhan wants. Which means, their product sucks if they don't take it back. Interesting, that they themselves agree that their own product sucks, this should be a hint to all vacation seeking folks of the future. Stay away from these vultures! Has anyone started a class action lawsuit yet? I would be interested in joining!
Vultures! Is there anything worse than that?
DeleteI would like to join too!
My wife and I got behind on our maintenance fees as we moved from Germany to the U.S. We received a letter stating that we were going to forfeit our timeshare points to them permanently and have no further ownership for being 700 dollars in debt of maintenance fees. We sent a certified letter and they relented, calling and agreeing to allow us to continue ownership but instead had us forfeit our existing credits... They made no mention of us having to forfeit our credits for being in debt with maintenance fees.
ReplyDeleteWe are now fully paid off with maintenance fees yet lost 12000 credits and when I called asking about it, the person said we lost the credits because we were behind on our maintenance fees and there is nothing that can be done, it was our fault for not paying our bill... Do I have any legal recourse to get my 12000 confiscated points back?
. I too have a timeshare from them and I feel I was scammed. I was told it would increase in value (false), I could easily go through my bank to refinance since it was like a regular mortgage (false), I could bank points (was not told it would cost me more money to do so and I have a very short window to do so), was told I could transfer my points to rci to use additional resorts (not informed about the very high additional costs to do so), was given "free" rci stays to use since they took up so many hours of my vacation (not informed these were not free, rci said I had to pay them hundreds of dollars per certificate. Thats not free). Was invited to what I was told was a presentation for owners regarding changes to the timeshare, turned out to be a pressuring sales. It didnt matter how much I said no and wanted to leave, they just added on the pressure until I finally made a purchase with promises to be managers and always available to assist with booking vacations, renting points, etc. This never happened. I ended up with emails and calls that went without a response. Told I could get out of a deed, transfer to another one and.my rates would be lowered, this was not true. I ended up paying even more, much more.
ReplyDelete> By the time, I returned from.the vacation I was on and tried to reach my "manager" the time ran out to even write the company to get out of this mess. There were so.many other lies told regarding benefits and the referral program. Always having to fill out a form and give names of friends and.family for them call. I hated that part but again, the pressure they put on you (2 -3 people sitting around you in a small corner, makes you feel like small prey).
> I know they have contacted people on my referral list and someone made a purchase and/or make a visit but Wyndham never contacted me in any way about that. No rewards ever given either.
This sounds just like what my family went through they trap you and will not let you go I felt as if I would have to physically fight my way out and I should have but unfortunately I folded and now it seems as if they have me. I have only been in this for a couple of months and I tried to reach my so called personal contact to try to cancel this whole mess and no response of course. I was lead to believe that the maintenance fees were a year for what I am paying a month. so stupid of me to let these thug do this to me and my family. Someone please help!!!!
DeleteThis is exactly how I feel. You have 5 straight days, which includes weekends, to send a certifies letter to cancel. After that you are screwed! I feel like I was psychologically swindled into purchasing this timeshare. This scam needs to stop somehow.
DeleteI seriously need help trying to get out of this scam! Nothing has been fulfilled according to the saleperson and I am fed up with paying fees for nothing please contact me so I can figure out how to get out of this disaster!
ReplyDeleteWe have an RCI points account, home resort is Georgian Manor in Collingwood Ontario...20,000 pts a year...not much I know...
ReplyDeleteWent to DisneyWorld in September 2013 and was talking in to buying 84,000 pts with Wyndham Bonnet Creek. Was also told that for a 1 time cost of $89 our 20,000 pts with Georgian Manor would be converted to 154,000 pts with Wyndham. This would be done annually and we wouldn't have to pay any extra amount, other than the $15,000 US we paid in September...
Turns out that this is not the case and we cannot convert our RCI Points to Wyndham Points and we are now screwed out of $15,000 US. How do I go about getting the contract we just signed reversed and get my money back? Please help...
I have 500K points from two of the Wyndham in Kauai, one was purchased prior to Wyndham purchasing the management contract and two after because we were not able to use their other services unless we bought more points under their program. These points were purchased with the intention of my wife and I traveling to other destinations outside of Hawaii. Three years ago my wife passed away and I am stuck with points/timeshare that I am not interested in after all "one is the loneliest number", and there is not a market for their product. In fact they cant be given away, you have to pay to pass them on to someone else. They say they have a great product and I have yet to see where their greatness is, I believe they are great in their own eyes only! I recently called in because I received a collection letter stating that I was past due on my account and my monthly maintenance fee is automatically charged by them. Go figure!
ReplyDeleteBiggest scam yet! When you do a trade, Wyndham directs you to there resorts for vacancies instead of where you want to go. This is their marketing scam to keep Wyndham owners buying more and more useless Wyndham points. You cannot trade in Wyndham and not be pestered about a presentation. Why is it that Wyndham and RCI points are totally different? Just like Worldmark, same thing.Now that they have gobbled up Shell Vacations, what will their system look like? It's not the product, it's the people running the business that are the problem. Old school, the names haven't changed, just the locations of where they are working and the positions that they hold have. People blame the salesperson, ever thought maybe that salesperson has a sales manager? There is an old saying, it starts at the top! Try filing suit against those people holding them personally responsible and see if things change. A corporate Vail is only so thick.
ReplyDeleteDo yourself a favor. If they are not offering "RCI" points. Walk! NOT INTERESTED!
ReplyDeleteMy niece was sold with false pretense 5 mos ago. What can she do??
ReplyDeletehow do you cancel this I have only had it for two months and was lied to about the maintenance fees.
DeleteMy elderly parents have not made one payment..they got in in July 31 August. My mom doesn't know English, my dad has Alheizmer's...please help
DeleteAbout a little over a year ago I went to see family and just get away from the troubles that was happening in my life. I didn't know my cousin was a Wyndham sales rep and the day I was supposed to drive to LA she took me to her job and wanted to show me all the nice places and just basically tried to butter me up. Not once did I go to a presentation and literally she kept me there almost the whole day. I even told her no its not for me, and called my sister, because I wasn't in a good spot, I was having trouble in my marriage, and dealing with the military, I was having health issues and was in and out of the hospital just before I went there. She took my phone and never gave it back. She made all these promises like it will help my credit, the first payment will be free which it wasn't, if I fall behind the payments is linked to her account, she would even take it for me if I didn't like it, or she'll resell it for me, I'll have equity on it, she told me they would even add to my plan of 86000 points and it will be 300000 and VIP she even told me to make profit and sale this points and that which i know nothing of how to do anyway or have the time. I thought maybe it was good come to find out those extra points once used up wont come back. Because I was military I was getting a good deal even brought other family names into it saying so and so would kill for this deal. I just wanted to get out of there. I didn't even know converting points to rewards or moving them would cost money I was told it would be free. It just wasn't a good time in my life to even think about getting this. After I signed the papers it's like all of a sudden the work was done and she was nowhere to be found. I decided to call them to cancel it but they said I would have to mail it in and by that time it would be too late to cancel without penalties. Apparently I only had a 5 day window which she told me give it 6 months and if you still don't like it don't worry I'll help you. I called my cousin and she said she would send me the paperwork. It was simple I would just sign and I would get what I put down back. When I called her again she said she'll send the paperwork if I sent her money because she had to put like 100 or so in after basically drained me for what I had when I was there and when I said I'll give you some of what I get back so I know it worked and I never heard from her again. Until this day she has ignored me and I think I even have her recorded phone call on my phone saying those things. But I just thought all the lies and she's supposed to be my own family it's just disgusting. I even read you get incentives for going to to the presentation I was told I would get 200 on an American express card and I never did they gave me dinner coupons. Which I never went to the presentation anyway so I don't care but I feel like if I did I would've been more confident on what I was getting myself into.
ReplyDeleteI am trying to get my Fiance out from this grand theft. She owes 21k on her "note" at credit card rates (Stunning). She has been paying for one year now but I want her out of this. She was duped. This isn't a real TIMESHARE legally anyway!. We all call it that but there is no tie in into any property.. This is pre paying for hotel rooms for 10 years, NOT A TIMESHARE!!!!!!!!!! We want to walk away from this WITHOUT DINGING HER EXCELLENT CREDIT RATING. Does anyone have a great GO TO person that can shut this BS Contract down WITHOUT it costing her outrageous fees? This whole Timeshare system is really a nightmare with "ambulance chasers" out there that RIP YOU off after the First RIP OFF of buying into the Worldmark Fraud in the first place. How is it that this corporation is still in business???? I have worked in Commercial Real Estate for 8+ years now but even this is new to me. What is your cost JUST TO GET OUT OF CONTRACT?. Signed, Frustrated and Outraged.
DeleteThese people are terrorist and need to be treated as such! Just my opinion. But we had the same thing happen to us at The Grand Seas Resort in Daytona Beach Florida as I tried to leave they blocked the door and would not let us leave until we signed the papers, and to cover their @$$ they had us initial and sign a statement that said they never said anything that they stated during the presentation. It was like the flashy thing in MIB (you never heard us say any of these things at any time during the presentation. It is all a figment of your imagination. Sign the papers now and we will let you go) Our folly was not really paying attention to what we were signing, so I guess we are just as screwed as most of the people here.
DeleteI have often wondered if they were tied to terrorists. They have no regard for individuals or their financial conditions!
DeleteI too have a problem with timeshares. I purchased mine 25 years ago when it was great for vacationing. You could swap it for a fee of course. Now, it's not good enough to exchange somewhere else without throwing in additional weeks so you will have more points, of course it has to be all inclusive and so far I have had no luck exchanging it at all because my resort where I purchased no longer can compete with all the new resorts but you can't exchange it because your unit is not good enough or powerful enough to exchange. So, now I am stuck with it, no one wants it. I have even tried to give it away. I can't exchange it. I have lost so many weeks the past few years from not being able to exchange it. Then of course they will rent it for you, but you don't get any money for it because they say no one rented your unit. Yet, you call them and they say they have no vacancy for that week. All the rules have changed since we purchased our unit and we all should be able to get out of this nightmare without it ruining our credit rating. They are ripping people off left and right and all these wonderful people now buying in, will also see the light when it is too late. These reps will lie, cheat and steal to talk you into this stuff. I suggest we all file a class action lawsuit against these resorts and file against them at the better business bureau. Whatever it takes to get good people out of these things.
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ReplyDeleteWe bought a into the whole timeshare spiel in 2001, when I was pregnant. We thought it was a good write off at the time, and with the 2 free Tkts to Kauai that we never got, as well as other "rewards" that we're promised and not delivered, it didn't turn out to be so. We had one week every other year at Pahio Resorts, Kauai Beach Villas. Problem with their great sales pitch, is you still have to have the time off work, the extra cash, and the energy to go. The fees every 2 years were $300, which we paid. Then. After 4 years, they went to $600 every 2 years, and I paid that too. We had already paid the whole timeshare off in 2002 for $10,000, so we were ok. Then, recession hit in 2007, lost our house and 2nd income in 2008. Had health issues, long story, we moved twice, left forwarding addresses, and from 2007 -2014, heard nothing. Now, we are recieving a bunch of legal docs along with about 100 other people in the same boat, wanting maintenance fees yesterday, or they want to foreclose. Just when did the maid fees rise to $1000 every 2 years, and why weren't we ever contacted. Help!
Hi, we purchased a timeshare in 2001. It is located in Kauai, and it' called Kauai Beach Villas at Pahio Resorts. Originally, cleaning fees were $300 every other year. Now, it is almost $1000, which we just found out about within the past few years. We paid over $10,000 overall back in 2002. We continued to pay the maintenance fees. In 2007, it went up to $600, and we paid that too. However, in 2008, we lost our hour due me losing my job. We then moved 2 times, and left forwarding addresses. Trust me, every bill collector on the planet found us except Wyndham? Hmmm. Evidently now, us and a boatload of others are being foreclosed on unless we can cough up back owed cleaning fees? Of, we can just deed it back to them, no harm, no foul. I was just curious if there was any class action suits out there pertaining to this? We haven't heard one peep out of them via mail since. 2007.
ReplyDeleteMy timeshare is w/another co. that's bi-annual therefore I'm eligible to travel (haha) everyother yr. but they bill maint. fees in full every yr. Is anyone familiar with this same situation?
ReplyDeleteI have a bi-annual timeshare. I'm being charged every yr. for full maint. fees. Is there anyone familiar with this setup?
ReplyDeletePlease help us. My mom is 83 y/o and Wyndham swindled me and her with their lies. Somehow they put me as the primary owner and take 3 different payments from her checking account every month. Somewhere around $1,000.00. She barely has enough for food, meds. & doctor visits. She's had cancer 3 times and we have to go back for more tests. No one else in our family can afford this. She doesn't want it. I called but they said it was too late. We even went to a meeting, we tried to give it back & they said NO and tried to sell us more points. They are creeps who do not care about the elderly :( We desperately need your help to get out of this situation!
ReplyDeleteHere is my most recent letter I will be sending on to Wyndham. This is a multiple attempt to get my account canceled. Have not used any points.
ReplyDeleteDear Wyndham, 04/08/14
I will continue to contact this company due to FALSE information until my account has been CANCELED. IF this messes up my Credit Score I will be pursuing legally.
2-16-14 flew into Las Vegas. My first time and boyfriends first time there. I and my boyfriend were approached by 2 men at Harrah’s Hotel near the concierge desk. We were directed that we could receive a free breakfast and 1 of the following FREE deals: 2 tickets for free shows, $100 dinner vouchers or a Visa Card if we were to attend a 1 hour seminar on Wyndham. We signed up to do this for 02-17-14 @ 10 a.m.
2-17-14 we showed up early got checked into the Wyndham Seminar. Was then told that we would do breakfast, seminar and a walk threw one of the locations. We were never told there was a walk through and I wore VERY bad shoes for this LONG walk. We got stuck with an over 4 hour time with Wyndham. This 4 hour block ruined a great majority of our vacation. It took 4 hours due to the Wyndham employees would keep sending us to talk to other people to make a deal. Alyssa was the first one, then her manager, then Wyndham financial and last person was Eric Bradley.
2-18-14 received an email from John M Levasseur with Discovery Sales. Stating he received confirmation etc. (email available). Same day I responded (while on vacation) “I was not aware that we are unable to use all the locations that were in the larger booklet. I'm reviewing the Discovery book and there and very limited locations. Are these the only ones we can vacation as being in the Discovery group?”
2-18-14 2nd email I sent that day said “Also Eric Bradley advised us we can use the points prior to the $1200 and I would like a documented "Yes" on that so we can use it when we would like to. Thank you”
2-19-14 (the day we had to fly home) I received an email back from John M Levasseur but it stated it was Eric Bradley responding with John’s email. He never answered the above question about the locations being different and not being notified of this.
2-23-14 Since I was on vacation and very busy when I got home with my full time job and being sick I responded on 02/23/14 about more inconclusive incorrect information.
2-24-14 emailed stating I wanted to cancel since I received nothing.
2-24-14 emailed again stating I will be mailing the cancelation via postal mail 2-25-14.
I even called and nothing was done. I was on hold for over 20 minutes. Another time I was on hold again and then directed that they cannot proceed due to the account has yet to be activated. I also have faxed over a cancelation request multiple of times.
All I want is to cancel this. I’m not receiving what we were verbally told.
I have already contacted BBB and filed a report. I will continue to file, notify everyone I know, post via social media and an Attorney if needed.
This should be a lesson for anyone seeking to buy a timeshare as this is the way you can expect to be treated after you have sold your soul to the DEVIL! They own you now, and can do anything they want because if you read the fine print, they run the game. I know I got the shaft too. If you signed the papers, then you are the one obligated to fulfill what you agree to they aren't obligated to do anything but leach on to you and suck the life out of you. It's not a good ending, but until we all get together on this and take real control of our lives again instead of crooked timecrap developers and sold out law makers, then it looks like we are in this for the long haul.
DeleteSorry to here the same story of our expierance in april with the same guy. Only we are unable to get an e-mail address any where. It would be greater help if people gave out information to be successful in fighting these sales men as well as these big companys. Only information is what gets you success in my opionion. Knowledge is power. Don't activate your package as it solidifys the deal in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteAdd us to your list and feel free to contact us via email any time. We went to Wyndham Lake Marion last time we had a presentation and things went real wrong from there. We got nailed a second time dealing with the VO Group out of New Jersey. LDGREF@aol.com
ReplyDeleteI would like to get legal action against wyndham myself. Anyone have any info for me? I feel like I have tried EVERYTHING!
ReplyDeletekbmassey83@comcast.net
I would like to join any class action brought against this company. My husband and I have been milked dry by these scammers!
DeleteHi there, I am hoping you might be able to help us. We were told we won a competition and went to a Wyndham presentation to collect the prize, once we were in we realised what a scam it was and we eventually managed to escape.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this website we are worried because when we entered they checked out id cards and we 'signed in' then we signed and ticked to decline the offer later, and finally we signed that we received the gift (which we threw in the nearest trash can outside!).
We felt so violated. Is there anything we should be worried about now? can they use our information or signatures to defraud us? We definitely did not sign a contract or credit form or anything but we are still worried. Just hoping for some peace of mind if you can help. Thanks.
Is there any sort of grace period? We just bought well I should say got swindled into this mess less then a week ago now after getting home from vacation we realize whats horrible mistake we made and want out . Anu suggested?
ReplyDeletedifferent states have different rules like state of Missouri you have 5 days. You have to write a letter canceling the contract and sending it certified mail. They go by the post marked day on the envelope. If bought time share on May 30 then the enveloped needs to be post marked by June 4th in order for it to be legal.
Deletehi my parents live in the uk and have purchased a timeshare with wyndham and have payed 4000 pound deposit and another 10,000 pound is wanted in the next 10 days their cooling off period was 5 days which has expired.can they get out of it as they don't live in the us?
ReplyDeleteWe were lied to the same way. We were told we can book anytime, anywhere, B.S.
DeleteWe checked out their lie...we tried to book one of their resorts in FL (thru their webpage), it was fully booked, 9 months ahead of time!
we accessed the same resort from the internet (as anybody else), and it had lots of vacancies. We called them for an explanation, they told us, if we pay cash, we can book just like anyone else, on top of our membership money!
eyousif@hotmail.com
Delete10/1/14. We were told that if we go to a 90 min presentation on 7/5/13.
ReplyDeleteThat we got a 7 days up to 10 people including Hawaii. Guess what we
just tried to book and it does not include Hawaii. This was In Orlando ,Fl
Anyone else attend around the same time with the same offer? They said they never offered Hawaii.
My husband and I were swindled by Wyndham timeshare in San Antonio during our wedding anniversary trip. They gave us the free gifts and everything. Something should have went off when the salesperson mentioned that he use to be an actor. We stayed for the presentation. My husband knowing exactly what they were doing, still was conned. The salesperson lied to us and said that the maintanence fee would be waived because he wanted to do that for "good people". He also mentioned that we would NEVER lose our points it would pile on year after year. It appeared to be a good deal, since I am due this December and wouldn't take a vacation until late next week. After getting home, we looked over the contract and the points do expire. I texted and called about the that and clarification on the maintanence fee being waived, but no response. Unfortunately, when I finally had time to review the contract, it was beyond the six day mark. I am very upset that they would use deceptive practices and have no compassion towards a family expecting a third bundle of joy. I want out!
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ReplyDeleteok. I need help. I just emailed you at notimeshare@gmail.com. I hope you can get me out of the two timeshares I own.
ReplyDeletewere you able to get any help with getting out of your contracts?
DeleteHere's our problem we paid in full the 2014 maintenance fees and ran into tough financial times and were not sure when we could afford to take our vacation we were finally able to afford to go in December but when we tried to book they said our first maintenance fee for 2015 reservations was due December 1 2014, well we said we would pay it later in 2015 cause we could only afford to pay for our December vacation expenses at this time but they would not allow us to book for 2014 which we already payed maintenance fees for, this just doesn't sound fair. Can anyone help david.keseloff@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteWe were lied to at one of their high pressure seminars...we were told, we can book anytime, anywhere. We've only been able to use our points, once in the past 2 yrs.
ReplyDeletewe tried to book one of their resorts in FL thru their webpage, it was fully booked 9-12 months !!! so we accessed the same resort thru the internet, and it had many vacancies. We called them for an explanation as to how come as owners we don't have same access to these resorts, as the general public, and were told point bland, we can pay cash (on top of our monthly due) and reserve!
I'm sad to say that I too was swindled into buying the load of bs Wyndham sold my family. My sister and I joined last May for the sole reason of merging our points with our parent's points to have a larger pool to draw from. As it turns out, the sales rep was extrememly pushy, and lied to our face when she said we could do that without a problem, and lied about many other things such as maintence fees never rising, they said we could use our points anytime, anywhere (which seems to be a problem for everyone in this forum- pay cash on top of your monthly dues) and it seems like payments sprang out of nowhere! We tried to contact her with questions, but never heard back from her. A few months after purchasing the timeshare, we all sat down with a manager at another resort, and asked about cancelling due to being lied to. The woman said, "why would you want to get out of your timeshare?" and proceeded to ignore us and leave the room.
ReplyDeleteIf there is any information out there about legal action againts these monsters, I would like in on it! There has to be some type of legal reprecussions for faulty business practices.
Any advice or help would be great!
My husband and I were also swindled twice by Wyndham. Every previous salesperson lied to us. It was always the last guys fault and they had a new product to get c out of the mess we got into. Most recently, we were told that we had to buy into pathways to be able to pass the timeshare on to another family member and we were coerced into another $105,000 points. We were told that we did not have to pay maintenance fees if we use the Wyndham visa to pay maintenance with points. However once home we calculated that the most you could save is maybe $61 a month, but you would need to charge at least $5k a month to get any results. Maintenance is over $300 a month, help!!
ReplyDeleteSounds familiar. We also purchased a pathways contract.,if you can call it a contract . If you look at it, you,the buyer is the only signature on the paper! Wyndham has not signed anything.I have told it is not worth the paper it is written on! I guess in 5 years we will find out. Yes we have a 5 year waiting period before we can do anything. Yep , the maintain fees are 303 dollars a month.
DeleteI bought a small vacation package 15+ years ago for about $14,000. Paid it off in just a few years. I've used it many years and always figured it was a good investment. The time has finally come that I need to sell it back to them so a couple of months ago I checked into it. They only offered me $1740 which I was stunned by, but thought "well the money will help a lot". Then found out my ex-husband (now deceased) was still on the contract so had to get a copy of the death certificate and get him off the paperwork first. That has all been done so I called them again today.. Now they will only give me $1300. And she said in the future it will be worth less than that or NOTHING! I'm so upset! I need that money and what scam this company is!
ReplyDeleteIf u got this far with them to dispose of your timeshare, could u give me the particulars and address And name of personal. I am 83, had a life changing accident, hit with 16000 volts of electricity, fell over 25 Ft, lost left foot. Would appreciate our help. Frank wigle
DeleteI bought a small vacation package 15+ years ago for about $14,000. Paid it off in just a few years. I've used it many years and always figured it was a good investment. The time has finally come that I need to sell it back to them so a couple of months ago I checked into it. They only offered me $1740 which I was stunned by, but thought "well the money will help a lot". Then found out my ex-husband (now deceased) was still on the contract so had to get a copy of the death certificate and get him off the paperwork first. That has all been done so I called them again today.. Now they will only give me $1300. And she said in the future it will be worth less than that or NOTHING! I'm so upset! I need that money and what scam this company is!
ReplyDeleteI saw something about a lawsuit in California where Wyndham/Worldmark was overselling points with no available units. I think most of their condos are 1-2 star ratings at best, but then to add you can never get into them on top of it!! My dad could be staying at the Four Seasons monthly for how much he averages paying for this timeshare versus how much we actually use it!!! What a fraud! I am calling in regards to this lawsuit by attorney general in Cali to see what I can find out. If anyone else knows please let me know!
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My Mom was conned into this years ago. I am now the owner because she passed away. Right before she died (Jan 2013), she was lied to to get more points. I was in the meeting (Nov 2012), and wasn't too sure about adding more points, but she wanted to do it. Since we now had 1,000,000 points, we would now only pay 50% of the points when booking. That is partially true. We do get 50% off when we book within 60 days of arrival date. Lie #1. Then he proceeded to tell us that with the extra 500,000 points we would be getting, we could pay for a years worth of maintenance. Big lie #2! With the 1,000,000 points I have, I would only have enough to cover 5 months maintenance. I want to sell, but everything I see online looks like a scam too! What are my options??
ReplyDeleteWhy does the government let these companies continue to swindle people?
ReplyDeleteWhere do you think Congress stays while enjoying a tax payer paid vacation. These resorts set them up in their own homes and the upper class timeshares.
DeleteStumbled upon this page after doing some research about Wyndham today. Me and my partner got approached at Gold Coast Coolangatta by a friendly chap named Anthony offering discounted tickets to Theme Parks and shows in return for attending a presentation of Wyndham hotel. When we asked him what the presentation is about, Anthony said "just see what the hotel is about, maybe you will want to stay there one day". Discounted $50 show ticket sounded good. We went for that. He had to write down my license number in order to qualify for tickets and he requested we provided $50 cash. We did. Anthony said the tickets will be booked from Wyndham hotel next day upon our arrival to the presentation.
ReplyDeleteNext day we we went to the presentation at Wyndham in Kirra beach QLD and had to show my drivers license again for a girl at reception to scan. Then a lovely salesman named John greeted us offered us biscuits and coffee and so our conversation with him began. First I had to fill in a one page survey about our travel habits and then presentation began. Some time into the presentation we discovered that John is talking about time share. I had to immediately decline because we do not want to have any commitments, let alone life time commitments. however John insisted on us hearing him out. We did. It sounded all too expensive and there is no way you can make any decisions involving upfront buying $36000 worth of credits plus maintenance fees and a life time So, once more we declined with a polite "No". So as we were heading out of the presentation I was asked to sign one more small paper that had a checkbox saying I have acknowledged receiving the discounted show and this was to ensure that sales staff member could not claim the show ticket for himself.
Now after stumbling upon this blog and experiences people mentioned I am starting to worry. Would my signature or drivers license be used in any illegal way? Should I be concerned?
While you never know the intentions of any individual, as a company Wyndham would not do anything illegal with your information.
DeleteThat being said, there is a Timeshare Company in Texas where the sales managers were stealing information from clients who had attended the presentation and later sold that information. While this was without the knowledge of the company, you have to ask where trust should be given.
Timeshare sales is fast money and a lot of it. Because these timeshares care more about getting a sale than the integrity of their employees, they sometimes attract less than honest salespeople.
I am interested in any class action lawsuits against Wyndham. I have owned Wyndham properties for 15 years and I am aware of all the deceptions and lies told by the sales persons during presentations. Since I get compensation for rentals of the units which don't cover the maintain cost and those keep going up I would like to join a lawsuit which would compensate me for some of the $456,000 spent on ownership. Rules were changed recently which combines all the ending date of usage into one3 ending date.
ReplyDeleteThis has severely limited the time you can rent the properties much less use them for yourself. (A booking for December 10 with a 60day cancel & rebook window will give you 74 days to rent another resort with the points returned to your account)
Try booking a resort within 74 days!!!
This is only one of the tricks Wyndham cheats owners.
If you have a lawsuit regarding Wyndham pending I would like to join. Please e-mail me at CedricMc77@twc.com!
Tommy
I can't find any properties for 1 week availability from October-November 2015 on Kaui when normally there is plenty of availability. Lo and behold you can get them on Resort time and pay $1500 per week.
ReplyDeleteThis is so normal, they get away with this because your contract states "space available" on staying at the resorts. They have your money so they try and grab the public's money then they sell them a timeshare during their stay. I have gotten several people out of their contract because of the lie promising the resorts are for owners only.
DeleteWe are also the victims of Wyndham lies. Have you noticed that every time you call and complain to Wyndham you start getting calls from companies who want to sell your timeshare. I always ask these companies where they got my information...guess who gave it to them. Wyndham sells our information to these companies...Wyndham is evil!
ReplyDeleteWE NEED A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!
I suggest a NATIONAL OWNERS March on Wyndham. Everyone that has been BS'd into their crap sits outside the prperty that "bought" from. Since we are "Owners" let's see how they can legally remove us from property..secondly, they should be aware that we will tell others about the fraud and hurt their business. Since we are the ones that suffered financial loss, over and over, they, if they file agasint us, will be forced in court to show their !@@$ BS to the court..We Win..hit me back @northwest_seaside@yahoo.com..Let's get our State AGs to work for us also!
ReplyDeleteHi,
DeleteAre you going to pursue with class action against Wyndham?
I am interested!
Please email me veronica@warisanusa.com
Thank you
We had been loyal customers of RCI for many years, a few years ago we where told to merge our RCI Timeshares with Wyndham, they said it was going to be a money making opportunity, only a few resorts! And the points system was better and easier to use.
ReplyDeleteWe innocently bought their sales pitch and today we are so sorry we did. We have been paying for nothing, can't hardly use it, and renting them and make profit? Think again - impossible!!!!
Unexpectedly my wife developed a melanoma on her face near her left eye. Four months later I had to have three stents put in my arteries. Since then our financial situation has changed a lot so we decided to call them and ask for a break. We have begged them to give us a break. Have explained that our only source of income is my business in Venezuela, and sadly the political situation there has turned to the worse, and is has became impossible to buy foreign currency (euros, dollars or any other). At this point I can't pay my regular bills, much less vacation resort. I have explained all these them; I have all the proofs, I have written to them begging to take all my three weeks back, the two paid ones and the one that we are still paying. But NOTHING.
I ask anyone that is reading this blog,
a) if don't have one and you are planning to buy a Timeshare DON'T DO IT.
b) if you own TS and you feel happy with it, be prepared to be hit with increasing maintenance fees or any other difficulties that will make it difficult for you to use your week.
Please let us unite and stop these vaulters now. They should stop lying, stop making up statistics distorting facts, and make us believe things that are not real and never happen in reality.
These Vaulters should be looked up by the regulatory organizations and forced to clean their sales strategy and forced to stop lying to customers.
If their products are as good as they claim, then why don't they take them back? I have offered to return them for free!
Let's unite and work together to tame this beast.
sutwin607@yahoo.com
I have been a RCI member since 2001. I am still on the weeks system which are converted to a value. We have never been able to say "lets go here this year". Always at the mercy of trade. For the past two years nothing has came available for the summer except for the ski resorts stuck in the mountains. Who wants to go to a ski resort in the middle of nowhere in the middle of summer! I find it hard to believe that every beach location in the US is not available during the summer. I think that RCI (a.k.a Wyndham) is selling these out for cash. This has been the worst trading year ever. I am all in for a lawsuit!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWyndham/RCI are renting their properties. After 3 years of touring their properties a sales person showed me a foreclosed property in Mrytle Bch. Wyndham purchased. New, Beautiful. OCCUPIED. I asked when can owners book vacation here. Was told mid October when the rentals leave. Confirmed my suspicions as to why it was impossible to book vacations. Nevertheless, I filed bankruptcy the following spring. All too many deceptions and lies.
DeleteI see all these complaints and requests for class action but nothing more. Do I just have to keep paying as past my 5 days in MS.
ReplyDeleteSo lots of folks with similar complaints but no united suit or effort. Any law firm taking this on. If so I have emails and texts with promises from Wyndham reps. Not verbal stuff but written confirmed and dated info, would be very useful in a class action suit.
ReplyDeleteI am interested in being a part of a class action lawsuit against Wyndham let me know who to contact and how
DeleteThe problem is finding a law firm that would do the class action for all of us.
DeleteI found a law firm Finn Law Group but they are asking $3500 up front.
Not sure if it is a good idea hiring them.
Anybody knows a reputable law firm that we can trust?
We are from Melbourne Australia and we need help desperately to get out. Who can we affordably class action against Wyndham with with?
DeleteContact me Melbourne Australia at timesharetricks@gmail.com
Deletei also ask them to take my Myrtle beach back for free. but no. i'm thinking about blocking the auto draft for maintance fee and just let the account die. lawsuit I'm in.
ReplyDeleteyes, how can we be part of a class action, ASAP ?
DeleteI am interested in participating in a class action lawsuit against
ReplyDeleteWyndham. Let me know who to contact and how
I was also repeatedly lied to during a presentation at Myrtle Beach, SC . I would love to participate in a class action but have no idea how to proceed. They have scammed so many people there must be a way. Would a letter writing campaign to the U.S. Attorney general be helpful?
ReplyDeleteAgreed that a lawsuit sounds like the only sure way to get rid of the SCAM called Wyndham and RCI. We have already paid in around $50,000 with about $60,000 left to pay. We can't use the points as promised. The Wyndham rental service takes either 60 or 70% and gives us 30-40% - and they do NOT get top dollar for the rentals, so using those "extra" pts to pay the maintenance is bogus.
ReplyDeleteWe just went through what was supposed to be a meeting for Wyndham owners, but turned out to be another company, World Class Getaways. They claimed to be working with Wyndham and RCI to give us options becuase of a previous class lawsuit. Will charge us $13,000 to totally get rid of Wyndham and give us points for RCI. We have found that they do NOT represent or work with either company, and now we are seeing that they might not even be legitimate at all. Not sure if anyone has worked with them. I'm sick of Wyndham and what you CAN'T do with your points. RCI tends to be a ripoff, so when we "bank" our points there it is like throwing them away. Even if it was all paid of, our 770,000 pts are costing us $353 per month for maintenance fees. What a rip-off! That's over $4,200 per year alone! That's 14 days at a $300 per night hotel - and we don't get anything for it! By the way, yes, like others, our loan for the remaining $60,000 is at $14.9%
We are trying to get out of our travel share with Wyndham with no luck. I got an email with a number to call to discuss a possible way to either sell to a third party or to get out of our loan upon them reviewing our contract. I was told we signed a contract and we are bound by it. This contract is for 40 years...Are you kidding me...40 years of paying maintenance fees not to mention the loan with high interest rate...I am glad that they do not have my family's information or they would most likely get them to take over the loan after our passing. I threatened to contact a lawyer as I never even get a statement from them. They said if I requested at the end of the year would receive a statement. That is the only help I received. The only way out is to default on the loan which would ruin my credit. I feel so completely stupid for falling for their sales pitch. We have never had a vacation through them and all we get is a loan payment to make and a maintenance fee to pay every month. For those of you reading this please read what you are signing, better yet walk away if not run. Any information on joining a lawsuit would be appreciated will be contacting an attorney soon.
ReplyDeleteHi, who do you have as an attorney?
DeleteThe one that I contacted Finn Law Group asking for $3500 up front and not sure if they are good.
Would be interested to know if you have any other attorneys that you would be using. veronica@warisanusa.com
Yes I have heard of Finn Law Group, Im not even certain there is an attorney in the group. They want your 3500 dollars. Email me at timesharetricks@gmail.com
DeleteYou said to email you at timesharetricks@gmail.com. I did and my letter came back saying "invalid recipient." How can we know you are real and not another scam? Swindled in Texas
DeleteI don't know why your email was returned invalid recipient. All I can suggest is double check the email address. timesharetricks@gmail.com. I would be happy to provide references.
DeleteAnyone have any interests in Shawnee on Delaware? My parents have been gone 25 & 14 years respectively... Now Wyndham finds it imperative to come after fees? And the law firm has the wrong interval.. They were furnished with the death certificates that now they conveniently do not have..Where were the bills for all these years? Now because Shawnee has a high default rate the share is significantly diminished.. they are buying back at a low price so they can sell off the condos for full market and still pocket a handsome sum. Now mind you my parents paid $6,000 for 2 weeks 40 years ago.. Now after the promise of the rise in value it is now worth $1,700
ReplyDeleteMy wife and myself vacationed in New Bern NC for our 30th wedding anniversary through RCI. We have owned a timeshare from Wyndham for over 15 years and have used it quite a bit. While in New Bern we went to a brunch and were asked how much are maintenance fees were. We told them and he said they could lower them through a promotion with Barkley credit. My wife was skeptical but I talked her into it since the man keep saying they would be lowered and locked in for 10 years. Well, he came back in the room and said he couldn't lower them but locked them in for just a little more then we were paying now. We signed and when we got home at the end of the week we seen we had bought RCI points and are paying two maintenance fees, one that we were paying before and the new one from them that they put on the credit card with 19% intrest. We have called them several times and they just keep saying we can turn our points in at the beginning of the year to pay for the maintenance fees! (what good is that?) The man lied about the fees and it ruined what was a very nice wedding ann. vacation. My wife called Wyndham yesterday and told them what happened and they sent her to their scam dept. and are suppose to be checking on it. We are going to give them a week or so and then I think we will get a hold of an attorney.
ReplyDeleteThe best way to go after them is to bully them into letting you out. If you hire an attorney it can drag on for years and the attorney makes all the money.
DeleteWYNDHAM HAS LET A RENTAL COMPANY CHARGE ON OUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION. They gave away three years of our points in less than one year. Also allowed that company to use a name and credit card unknown to us to buy extra vacation points.When the credit card was unable to pay sent us the bill charging intrest at 100 dollars a month, Wher can I go for help?
ReplyDeleteEmail me and we can discuss options
DeleteWe have been a timeshare owner at research myrtle beach for at least 16 yrs or longer we rarely use our points we let our kids use them
ReplyDeleteWe worked for quite a while to get a reservation at the Ocean Walk Daytona as a wedding gift to our grandaughter. The only requirement we had was we wanted at least an ocean view rooom with a balcony. I called one week before the wedding to verify and was told the unit they were assigned had no balcony and was an inside unit and there wasn't even a window in the unit .Of course there was no recourse. I was told I should have read the fine print on the confirmation. My answer to that is we were very specific when we booked the unit and trusted that they gave us what we wanted. This is not the first time we were treated like this. We have been lied to over and over.We are paid in full but never got our feed because we have to pay a fee to do so. If I knew how to get out of this I would. I was told at one point this will go to our children upon our death. I have been told that they do not have to take it over this was advised by a friend who chose not to assume his parents debt I would gladly join a class action suit against wyndham aka Fairfield aka Conartist experts
Recently, my parents were approached by Wyndham about signing up for a discount program of sorts. They are to pay about $200 per month into this program, and Wyndham would then put up to $6000 into an account, in which they would then use to buy products (e.g. microwave oven, travel, groceries).
ReplyDeleteHas anyone heard of this marketing scheme/scam before?. Is this a scam, and if so, what is the angle....Thanks..
Recently, my parents were approached by Wyndham about signing up for a discount program of sorts. They are to pay about $200 per month into this program, and Wyndham would then put up to $6000 into an account, in which they would then use to buy products (e.g. microwave oven, travel, groceries).
ReplyDeleteHas anyone heard of this marketing scheme/scam before?. Is this a scam, and if so, what is the angle....Thanks..
Recently, my parents were approached by Wyndham about signing up for a discount program of sorts. They are to pay about $200 per month into this program, and Wyndham would then put up to $6000 into an account, in which they would then use to buy products (e.g. microwave oven, travel, groceries).
ReplyDeleteHas anyone heard of this marketing scheme/scam before?. Is this a scam, and if so, what is the angle....Thanks..
Hi Lott, it seems Wyndham has sunken to a new low. I have never heard of this buyers program. It sounds like they sold your parents a timeshare but completely lied about it. Email me at timesharetricks@gmail.com
DeleteI purchased 1 day ago, can I cancel????? It states I can in 7 days in my contract, has anyone been successful in doing this?
ReplyDeleteI just purchased with RCI (one day ago) can I still cancel? It says 7 days has anyone has success canceling and getting a full refund?
ReplyDeleteT - Yes you can cancel and get a full refund. You need to write a letter stating you want to cancel, you don't have to give a reason. Then mail the letter and all sales material they gave you, including any gift they gave you for being a new owner. This must be sent certified mail and postmarked within the 7 days. They have to refund you per the law.
DeleteHelp me stop terrible timeshare tactics and abolish lifetime and multigenerational contracts. These should be illegal. You can get out of every bad decision / choice except for a timeshare. Insane!!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.change.org/p/ben-cardin-stop-lifetime-multigenerational-timeshare-contracts
Help me end multigenerational and lifetime timeshare contracts sign my petition please!!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.change.org/p/ben-cardin-stop-lifetime-multigenerational-timeshare-contracts
Will do.
DeleteI signed your petition and will share it with everyone I know who's been duped into these things. We were told when we purchased that our daughter would have the "option" to take this over when we pass away, but were recently told that our daughter would be required to take it over. Who wants to force a debt onto their children without their consent???? We were furious. I know we should have read our contracts, but we all know how they wear you down until you break and sign. I'm so done with Wyndham!
DeleteLet's do something about IT!!!
ReplyDeleteLet's do something about it!
ReplyDeleteJust bought my timeshare last July tried booking to New York all fully booked and need to book 6 months ahead of time. The monthly dues goes up from 55 to 60 dollars per month. I'm leaving the country and called them they told me I can return the share if have it for a year and I will get nothing. They referred me to their reselling partners and told me that my 16K travel share is with 14000 points available this year cost only 2100 dollars. This is a waste of money. count me in if you are filing law suit to them.
ReplyDeleteMy mother and I bought Trendwest back in 1996 with the promise that our 8500 credits would get us into any timeshare built and held by Trendwest. 2 years later we upgraded to 15000 credits. We hardly use their resorts as it is. Last time I used credits was in Las Vegas where I wiped out 2 years of credits for a suite. I was advised at check in that I needed to attend an owners update meeting. This is a key word for High Stress sales attempt. After they told me that my credits were no good for the newer resorts coming online (after wyndham took over) That I had to buy MORE credits to make my other credits available for use at the new resorts. This is total crud it was sold to us as a normal people being able to enjoy vacation spots that most could not afford. NOW if you don't hold 100,000 plus credits you are restricted to which resorts you can use and when you can use them. Plus credits are going up so what I paid for in 1996 has bottomed out so that I can hardly even use the thing anymore.
ReplyDeleteWe were sold down the river by Holiday Inn Vacations in November 2015.
ReplyDeleteWe want to sue them.
Can we organize a class action suit?
Can I recover money any money back as I paid it out!!!!!
I will email Jim also as noted above.
Thanks.
Thanks
help. we we're conned into buying something we could not use or afford. And Wyndham KNEW this. We have been sinking in debt for the last year since we were convinced last April that this would be a great idea. We were dumb and now we are damned. HELP.
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DeletePlease assist. Purchased a time with Fairfield, was later sold to Wyndham and I have completely paid it off.. After pay off, Wyndham has been avoiding calls, and literally refused full payment for maintenance fees to bring account up to current. Is there anyone who can legally help me in this matter or point me in the right direction. Please help.. Paid 10,000 plus total and paid off this time share and Wyndham never sent deed as promised after payoff and ignored all calls.
ReplyDeleteEmail me at timesharetricks@gmail.com I can help
DeleteIs anyone currently working on a class action lawsuit against whyndham worldmark?
ReplyDeleteHi Vanessa. I don't have any knowledge of a clas action at this time. The problem with a class action is Wyndham would fight tooth and nail and put it off for years because of the amount involved. Then the only one to actually see any money is the lawyer.
Deleteshell vacations club has lied to me and now we pay two seperate maintenance fees.
ReplyDeleteEmail me at timesharetricks@gmail.com if they lied we can force them to let you out of the contract and refund your money
DeleteWyndham has a new computer implementation going. The whole push was to screw platinum owners who paid 200 k ++ for their points.
ReplyDeleteNow the whole thing is FUBAR>
PEOPLE CANT GET IN
PEOPLE ARE HAVING THEIR OLD RESERVATIONS CANCELLED
WYNDHAM WONT CHAT PHONE LINES HAVE A 2 HOUR WAIT AND WYNDHAM JUST DOESNT GIVE A SHIT.. I wish someone would sue them
experiencing the same problem. trying to get into Wyndham customer service for the past week.
ReplyDeleteEmail me at timesharetricks@gmail.com, I can help you get out of the contract and your money back.
ReplyDeleteWyndham tricked my husband and I into buying and signing a contract while we had our 4month old baby with us crying and uneasy during a 5hr presentation. They charged me almost $13000 on a Barclay card almost maxing it out telling me I can use this credit card to get rewards points. How am I going to get reward points if I can't use it??? So it seems like Wyndham and Barclay are working together to scam people to buy a fictitious type of property that you can only use with points and also pay maintenance fees and other types of fees because all this company does is charge fees on top of feesWe have been trying to get our contract cancelled for the last 5 months and all they have been telling us is that it's a legally binding contract blah, blah, blah we can't do anything for you but we have a resolution. (what I thought a resolution means your solving my problem not I can't do anything for you). Also to my understanding a legally binding contract can be cancelled or terminated if one party is not able to fulfil it's duties. Meaning I can't pay for it because I can't afford it be cause your sales man told me I would be paying $60 but instead I'm getting charged over $200 monthly which I cannot afford on top of my other bills I have to pay along with other expenses for my child. These people don't have any type of morals they need to be taken down. Now my credit score has gone down because I refuse to pay for points I don't want but didn't realize it until it was too late because the sales people never mentioned that we can recind after a certain amount of days. I don't understand how this corporation still exist. We are now seeking legal help and hopefully we can get out of it. If we all stand together we can fight for all our money back that this multi-million company had stolen from us. If anyone can get me information about getting this cancelled or if anyone can help us pls email me at milleymess@gmail.con
ReplyDeleteWyndham Sued For Alleged Financial Fraud Against Senior Citizens
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NASHVILLE, TN (JUNE 02, 2017) — A Nashville law firm has filed several lawsuits in Tennessee alleging fraud, breach of contract, and violations of the Tennessee Timeshare Act against Wyndham Vacation Ownership, Inc., the world’s largest timeshare company.
Attorneys Aubrey Givens and Kristin Fecteau have seven lawsuits pending in State and Federal Court in Tennessee, alleging widespread abuse and consumer fraud by Wyndham and its subsidiaries.
Givens said, “We have over 285 senior citizens who are our clients who are alleging financial fraud.”
According to Complaints filed with the court the plaintiffs allege they are victims of fraud, deceptive trade practices, and were not advised of their right to rescind the deal until it went into effect. The allegations say that Wyndham sales people intentionally deceived, misled, and financially injured people who were buying Wyndham timeshares, especially targeting the elderly. Wyndham’s advertising states that in order to attend their sales presentation, prospective buyers must have a minimum annual household income of $60,000. However, there is no such qualification if someone is 55 or older or is fully retired.
The court documents allege that Wyndham engages in all kinds of deceptive tactics, such as selling timeshare points at hugely inflated prices, and failing to go over the information required when closing a real estate transaction as mandated by the Truth In Lending Act.
The lawsuits filed with the court also claim that Wyndham does not disclose that timeshare points are an illiquid asset with no aftermarket, making it difficult if not impossible for people to resell their Wyndham timeshares.
Other allegations included in the court documents state that during the sales process, Wyndham sales agents make numerous intentional or negligent misrepresentations designed by Wyndham to create a false sense of urgency, further pressuring owners to purchase new or additional timeshares.
Additionally, the court documents allege that Wyndham sales agents are intentionally verbally telling people things that are untrue, only to have them sign voluminous, fine-print documents that directly contradict the representations made to them during the sales presentation.
Fecteau said, “If we can make timeshare owners aware of their rights, we can let them know that they have an advocate who will look at their contracts and advise them of their options.”
The four lawsuits pending in Federal Court can be viewed by logging onto PACER, which is the Federal Court online access system.
The Federal cases are: Devine v. Wyndham Worldwide Operations, Inc., et. al, United States District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee, #3:16-cv-02757
Hogle v. Wyndham Worldwide Operations, Inc., et. al, United States District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee, #3:16-cv-02931
Coggins, et. al v. Wyndham Worldwide Operations, Inc., et. al, United States District Court for the Eastern District of Tennessee, #3:16-cv-316
Sanford v. Wyndham Worldwide Operations, Inc., et. al, United States District Court for the Eastern District of Tennessee, #3:17-CV-00036
Two other lawsuits are pending in Chancery Court in Sevier County, Tennessee: Oswald v. Wyndham Worldwide, et al, case #16-11-358, and Urban v. Wyndham Worldwide Operations, Inc., et al., Case # 17-4-121.
One case is pending in Chancery Court in Davidson County, Tennessee: Little v. Wyndham Worldwide Operations, Inc., # 16-1096-I.
The lawsuits filed in these cases can also be viewed at:
https://www.givenslawfirm.com/lawsuits-filed-against-wyndham
CONTACTS:
AUBREY GIVENS
Aubrey Givens & Associates, PLLC
+1 615-248-8600
KRISTIN FECTEAU
The Law Office of Kristin Fecteau, PLLC
615-496-5747
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I would gladly participate in a law suite against Wyndham, I'm in the process of see a lawer from Branson Mo.who contacted us , about getting rid of our time share, keep in touch while we owed them money , Now I can't even reach them .I just want a clean slate from this time share were in our 70 . by the time its payed we will be long gone .I understand that you children are responsabe after your death?
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